# Open Source to require documentation for the first time for AI? **URL:** \ **Category:** Open Source AI\ **Created:** [October 6, 2024, 6:56am UTC](https://discuss.opensource.org/t/open-source-to-require-documentation-for-the-first-time-for-ai/638 "2024-10-06T06:56:37Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 1\ **Showing post:** 23
**Author:** ![nick](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/user_avatar/discuss.opensource.org/nick/32/542_2.png) [@nick](https://discuss.opensource.org/u/nick)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2024, 12:09pm UTC](https://discuss.opensource.org/t/open-source-to-require-documentation-for-the-first-time-for-ai/638/23 "2024-10-08T12:09:55Z")
> [@shujisado](#): > > At least for me, I had never even considered the idea of defining Open Source AI until June 2023 (as I thought the OSD was sufficient), and I remember being quite surprised by Stefan-san’s blog post. I suspect many in the community felt the same way. When the timeline of “2 or 3 years” is emphasized, I worry that many experts and members of the community who were not involved in the discussions during the non-public period may feel a sense of exclusion. Hi @shujisado-san, your timeline is precise. It was in early 2023, with the development of the EU AI Act with the exceptions for Open Source AI, when we realized that a definition for Open Source AI was much needed, and we organized the first meeting at the Mozilla headquarters in [June 2023](https://opensource.org/blog/towards-a-definition-of-open-artificial-intelligence-first-meeting-recap). Before that, we were exploring the topic as of early 2022. Since then, we have opened up the discussions more and more, reaching out to experts and community members. Here’s a rough timeline: **Deep Dive: AI Podcasts 2022** - [Welcome to Deep Dive: AI](https://deepdive.opensource.org/podcast/welcome-to-deep-dive-ai/) (Stefano Maffulli - July, 2022) - [Copyright, selfie monkeys, the hand of God](https://deepdive.opensource.org/podcast/copyright-selfie-monkeys-the-hand-of-god/) (Pamela Chestek - Aug 16, 2022) - [Solving for AI’s black box problem](https://deepdive.opensource.org/podcast/solving-for-ais-black-box-problem/) (Alek Tarkowski - Aug 23, 2022) - [When hackers take on AI: Sci-fi – or the future?](https://deepdive.opensource.org/podcast/when-hackers-take-on-ai-sci-fi-or-the-future/) (Connor Leahy - Aug 30, 2022) - [Building creative restrictions to curb AI abuse](https://deepdive.opensource.org/podcast/building-creative-restrictions-to-curb-ai-abuse/) (David Gray Widder - Sep 6, 2022) - [Why Debian won’t distribute AI models any time soon](https://deepdive.opensource.org/podcast/why-debian-wont-distribute-ai-models-any-time-soon/) (Mo Zhou - Sep 13, 2022) - [How to secure AI systems](https://deepdive.opensource.org/podcast/how-to-secure-ai-systems/) (Bruce Draper - Feb 9, 2023) **Deep Dive: AI Panels 2022** - [Exploring the business side of AI](https://deepdive.opensource.org/panels/) (Astor Nummelin Carlberg, David Kanter, Sal Kimmich, Stella Biderman, Alek Tarkowski - October 11, 2022) - [Exploring the society side of AI](https://deepdive.opensource.org/panels/) (Kat Walsh, Luis Villa, Carlos Muñoz Ferrandis, Kit Walsh - October 13, 2022) - [Exploring the legal side of AI](https://deepdive.opensource.org/panels/) (Pamela Chestek, Jennifer Lee, Danish Contractor, Adrin Jalali - October 18, 2022) - [Exploring the academia side of AI](https://deepdive.opensource.org/panels/) (Chris Albon, Ibrahim Haddad, Mark Surman, Amy Heineike - October 20, 2022) **Deep Dive: AI Webinars 2023** - [Deep Dive: AI Webinar Series](https://opensource.org/deepdive/webinars) (September, 2023) - [The Turing Way Fireside Chat: Who is building Open Source AI?](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e8EBI1ocxt4) (Jennifer Ding, Arielle Bennett, Anne Steele, Kirstie Whitaker, Marzieh Fadaee, Abinaya Mahendiran, David Gray Widder, Mophat Okinyi) - [Operationalising the SAFE-D principles for Open Source AI](https://opensource.org/deepdive/webinars/operationalising-the-safe-d-principles-for-open-source-ai) (Kirstie Whitaker, David Leslie, Victoria Kwan) - [Commons-based data governance](https://opensource.org/commons-based-data-governance/) (Alek Tarkowski, Zuzanna Warso) - [Preempting the Risks of Generative AI: Responsible Best Practices for Open-Source AI Initiatives](https://opensource.org/preempting-the-risks-of-generative-ai-responsible-best-practices-for-open-source-ai-initiatives/) (Monica Lopez) - [Data privacy in AI](https://opensource.org/data-privacy-in-ai/) (Michael Meehan) - [Perspectives on Open Source Regulation in the upcoming EU AI Act](https://opensource.org/perspectives-on-open-source-regulation-in-the-upcoming-eu-ai-act/) (Katharina Koerner) - [Data Cooperatives and Open Source AI](https://opensource.org/data-cooperatives-and-open-source-ai/) (Tarunima Prabhakar, Siddharth Manohar) - [Fairness & Responsibility in LLM-based Recommendation Systems: Ensuring Ethical Use of AI Technology](https://opensource.org/fairness-responsibility-in-llm-based-recommendation-systems-ensuring-ethical-use-of-ai-technology/) (Rohan Singh Rajput) - [Challenges welcoming AI in openly-developed open source projects](https://opensource.org/challenges-welcoming-ai-in-openly-developed-open-source-projects/) (Thierry Carrez, Davanum Srinivas, Diane Mueller) - [Opening up ChatGPT: a case study in operationalizing openness in AI](https://opensource.org/opening-up-chatgpt-a-case-study-in-operationalizing-openness-in-ai/) (Andreas Liesenfeld, Mark Dingemanse) - [Open source AI between enablement, transparency and reproducibility](https://opensource.org/open-source-ai-between-enablement-transparency-and-reproducibility/) (Ivo Emanuilov, Jutta Suksi) - [Federated Learning: A Paradigm Shift for Secure and Private Data Analysis](https://opensource.org/federated-learning-a-paradigm-shift-for-secure-and-private-data-analysis/) (Dimitris Stripelis) - [Should OpenRAIL licenses be considered OS AI Licenses?](https://opensource.org/should-openrail-licenses-be-considered-os-ai-licenses/) (Daniel McDuff, Danish Contractor, Luis Villa, Jenny Lee) - [Copyright — Right Answer for Open Source Code, Wrong Answer for Open Source AI?](https://opensource.org/copyright-right-answer-for-open-source-code-wrong-answer-for-open-source-ai/) (McCoy Smith) - [Should we use open source licenses for ML/AI models?](https://opensource.org/should-we-use-open-source-licenses-for-ml-ai-models/) (Mary Hardy) - [Covering your bases with IP Indemnity](https://opensource.org/covering-your-bases-with-ip-indemnity/) (Justin Dorfman, Tammy Zhu, Samantha Mandell) - [The Ideology of FOSS and AI: What “Open” means to platforms and black box systems](https://opensource.org/the-ideology-of-foss-and-ai-what-open-means-relating-to-platforms-and-black-box-systems/) (Mike Nolan) **OSAID Conferences and Meetings 2023/2024** - June, 2023 - First OSAID Meeting (Jun. 2023 - San Francisco) - July, 2023 - [FOSSY](https://opensource.org/blog/takeaways-from-the-defining-open-ai-community-workshop) (Jul. 13-15, 2023 - Portland) - [Campus Party Brazil](https://opensource.org/blog/celebrating-25-years-of-open-source-at-campus-party) (Jul. 25-29, 2023 - Sao Paulo) - Open Source Congress (Jul. 27-28, 2023 - Geneva) - September, 2023 - [Open Source Summit Europe](https://blog.opensource.org/three-highlights-from-open-source-summit-europe-2023/) (Sept. 19-21, 2023 - Bilbao) - [Nerdearla](https://blog.opensource.org/nerdearla-reflects-on-openness-and-inclusivity/) (Sept. 26-30, 2023 - Buenos Aires) - October, 2023 - November, 2023 - December, 2023 - February, 2024 - April, 2024 - May, 2024 - June, 2024 - July, 2024 - August, 2024 - September, 2024 1. [Deep Learning Indaba](https://opensource.org/blog/rahmat-akintola-voices-of-the-open-source-ai-definition) (Sept. 1-7, 2024 - Dakar) - [Open Source AI Definition (Rahmat Akintola)](https://www.linkedin.com/feed/update/urn:li:activity:7236822849582170112) 1. [India FOSS](https://opensource.org/blog/data-transparency-in-open-source-ai-protecting-sensitive-datasets) (Sept. 7-8, 2024 - Bengaluru) - [Open Source AI Definition (Tarunima Prabhakar)](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G9ZzioW7yrY&t=22209s) 1. [Open Source Summit Europe](https://opensource.org/blog/a-journey-toward-defining-open-source-ai-presentation-at-open-source-summit-europe) (Sept. 16-18 , 2024 - Vienna) - [The Open Source AI Definition Is (Almost) Ready (Stefano Maffulli, Justin Colannino)](https://osseu2024.sched.com/event/1ej25/the-open-source-ai-definition-is-almost-ready-stefano-maffulli-open-source-initiative-justin-colannino-microsoft?iframe=yes&w=100%25&sidebar=yes&bg=no) - [Why Open Source AI Matters for Europe (Justin Colannino, Sachiko Muto, Stefano Maffulli, Cailean Osborne)](https://osseu2024.sched.com/event/1jK9X/panel-why-open-source-ai-matters-for-europe-justin-colannino-microsoft-sachiko-muto-openforum-europe-stefano-maffulli-open-source-initiative-cailean-osborne-the-linux-foundation?iframe=yes&w=100%25&sidebar=yes&bg=no) 1. [Nerdearla](https://opensource.org/blog/co-designing-the-osaid-a-highlight-from-nerdearla) (Sept. 24-28, 2024 - Buenos Aires) - [Defining Open Source AI (Mer Joyce)](https://youtu.be/S1UR60YJL8Y) - October, 2024 **Town Halls 2024** - January, 2024 - February, 2024 - March, 2024 - April, 2024 - May, 2024 - June, 2024 - July, 2024 - [July 15, 2024 - OSCA Community Webinar](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=33Oy31Xc1Cw) - [July 26, 2024 - OSAID Townhall](https://discuss.opensource.org/t/open-source-ai-definition-town-hall-july-26-2024/476) - August, 2024 - September, 2024 - October, 2024 --- _[View the full topic](https://discuss.opensource.org/t/open-source-to-require-documentation-for-the-first-time-for-ai/638)._