# Explaining the concept of Data information

**URL:** https://discuss.opensource.org/t/explaining-the-concept-of-data-information/401
**Category:** Open Source AI
**Created:** [June 14, 2024, 2:04pm UTC](https://discuss.opensource.org/t/explaining-the-concept-of-data-information/401 "2024-06-14T14:04:08Z")
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### Author: ![kjetilk](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/user_avatar/discuss.opensource.org/kjetilk/32/251_2.png) [@kjetilk](https://discuss.opensource.org/u/kjetilk)
#### Post date: [August 22, 2024, 12:38pm UTC](https://discuss.opensource.org/t/explaining-the-concept-of-data-information/401/31 "2024-08-22T12:38:31Z")

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> [@shujisado](#):
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> Whether it’s an Open Source model or a closed model, there is the freedom to provide some form of compensation for the copyrighted works used in AI training.

Certainly! Compensation is orthogonal to the openness of a model.

> [@shujisado](#):
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> I specifically mentioned compensation rather than “royalty” because “royalty” generally refers to a fee for the use of copyrighted material. In Japan, where I live, the use of copyrighted works for machine learning purposes is considered an exception under copyright law.

Yes, but I used “royalty” for exactly that reason. If the use of copyrighted material in a closed, non-published model _forces_ the model producer to compensate the author of the copyrighted material, then I can understand why copyright law makes the distinction between reproduction and distribution into a model, but if not, then I can see how this would benefit the science and arts.

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