# Draft v.0.0.9 of the Open Source AI Definition is available for comments

**URL:** <https://discuss.opensource.org/t/draft-v-0-0-9-of-the-open-source-ai-definition-is-available-for-comments/513>\
**Category:** Open Source AI\
**Tags:** draft\
**Created:** [August 22, 2024, 12:30pm UTC](https://discuss.opensource.org/t/draft-v-0-0-9-of-the-open-source-ai-definition-is-available-for-comments/513 "2024-08-22T12:30:06Z")\
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**Author:** ![mdolan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/6a8cbe/32.png) [@mdolan](https://discuss.opensource.org/u/mdolan)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2024, 3:54pm UTC](https://discuss.opensource.org/t/draft-v-0-0-9-of-the-open-source-ai-definition-is-available-for-comments/513/38 "2024-10-01T15:54:08Z")

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[quote]Also, as @lumin [pointed out](https://discuss.opensource.org/t/the-missing-third-leg-training-data-excluded-from-open-source-ai-definition-by-co-design/611/7), with an Open Source AI definition that does not mandate training data, you end up with **the paradox that Open Source AI could not be used in Science** at all (open or not).  
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Yes, that’s true. And it will be a limitation for models that want Open Science AI systems to use their model - it won’t happen. Just like there are limitations on the [compatibility between some permissive “open source” and copyleft “open source” licenses](https://www.apache.org/licenses/GPL-compatibility.html) that do not allow for certain combinations. But these are restrictions based on the requirements of the user. If I’m building an open science model, I cannot provide aspects of reproducibility if I rely on a foundation model that is MOF Class III. That doesn’t prevent me from using that IP or some of it. Maybe I don’t use that Class III model itself, but I borrow some of the Apache 2-licensed model architecture code because it was well done. I can do that and build an Open Science AI System using just that Open Source AI System’s model architecture code. That is possible - if the model architecture has an open source license. Per my other point to @anon18632855, some of this will be useful/not but the fact that it has an open source license on it allows me to use/modify/improve however I want under the terms of that license. I’m also not requried to use any of it so if there are artifacts in the data transparency missing and I don’t like that, I just won’t use that model.

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